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Joker: Folie À Deux director Todd Phillips 'wanted nothing to do with DC' <br> <br> during making of the $200million flop film, a new report has claimed.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> The hotly-anticipated sequel to the 2019 billion dollar Oscar-winning <br> <br> film - stars Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga and was considered a surefire hit for Warner Bros <br> <br> Pictures - but was slammed by critics and failed to ignite at the box office.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> The sequel has been roundly criticized for being a musical and 'ignoring' the DC fanbase - with an agent familiar with Phillips' <br> <br> process telling Variety he 'wanted nothing to do with DC' <br> <br> during the making of the film, with DC bosses James Gunn and <br> <br> Peter Safran notably absent from the film's LA premiere afterparty last month.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> A source said: 'If the first movie was about some down-on-his-luck, mentally ill guy <br> <br> in a downtrodden city, it makes maybe $150 [million] <br> <br> worldwide. Not a billion. People showed up because that guy was Joker.'<br> <br> <br> <br> In an apparent snub by Phillips, the opening sequence <br> <br> of the film does not include a DC Studios logo.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Rotten Tomatoes, the movie currently holds an audience score of 31% and a critic score of 32%<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> The hotly-anticipated sequel to the 2019 billion dollar Oscar-winning film <br> <br> - stars Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga - seen with Phillips last month - and <br> <br> was considered a surefire hit for Warners Bros Pictures - <br> <br> but was slammed by critics and failed to ignite at the box office <br> <br> <br> <br> A DC spokesman said Gunn was directing the Max series Peacemaker in Atlanta, which had lost a day of production due to Hurricane Helene, while Safran was sick. <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Read More<br> <br> <br> <br> Joker: Folie À Deux is branded 'bleak' and the 'most disappointing follow-up' by critics<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> A Warner spokesman added that a DC logo appears at the end of the Joker sequel.<br> <br> while Phillips declined to comment to the publication. <br> <br> <br> <br> Several frictions are said to have developed between Phillips,<br> <br> DC and Warner- with claims that Michael DeLuca, Chairperson of Warner Bros.<br> <br> Entertainment, and CEO Pamela Abdy seemed 'unwilling' to say <br> <br> no to Phillips due to his huge past successes.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> It is claimed Phillips would 'only' speak with DeLuca and Abdy rather than Gunn and Safran - who took control of <br> <br> DC two months before production began on Joker 2 in December 2022.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Gunn and Safran did attend the first director's cut screening for the studio but <br> <br> Phillips fueled rift speculation when he told a reporter:<br> <br> 'With all due respect to them, this is kind of a Warner <br> <br> Bros. movie.'<br> <br> <br> <br> Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav also met with <br> <br> Phillips  shortly after WarnerMedia and Discovery merged <br> <br> in April 2022 and was 'open to filming in Los Angeles if the director would make the sequel at a <br> <br> lower price point.'<br> <br> <br> <br> The studio wanted to film in London which would have cost around 20 per cent less.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> However, Phillips insisted on filming in LA with the budget remaining static. <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> The sequel has been roundly criticized for being a <br> <br> musical and 'ignoring' the DC fanbase - with an agent familiar with Phillips' process telling <br> <br> Variety he 'wanted nothing to do with DC' during the making <br> <br> of the film, with DC bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran notably absent from the film's <br> <br> LA premiere afterparty last month<br> <br> <br> <br>  A Warner spokesman told the publication the <br> <br> studio 'supported the decision to film in Los <br> <br> Angeles'.<br> <br> <br> <br> A source directly involved with the film said: 'No one could get through to <br> <br> Todd. And the one thing about genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're <br> <br> going to fail.<br> <br> <br> <br> Insiders also claim studio bosses did not want to premiere the film at the Venice Film Festival, <br> <br> but Phillips pushed back - with a Warner spokesman saying the studio 'fully supported the decision to bring the <br> <br> film to Venice.<br> <br> <br> <br> Joker: Folie À Deux has garnered the lowest CinemaScore in comic <br> <br> book movie history as the film bombed at the box office on opening night. <br> <br> <br> <br> It has only made $114million worldwide against its $200million budget. <br> <br> <br> <br> The psychological musical thriller — which has been criticized as 'bleak' and 'disappointing' <br> <br> — officially released in theaters on Friday, October 4, but <br> <br> it only raked in $20 million at the domestic box office, per The Hollywood Reporter. <br> <br> <br> <br> Phoenix reprised his role as the Joker in the <br> <br> sequel, which had earned him an Oscar for his portrayal in the 2019 film, while Gaga took on the role of Harleen Lee Quinzel (Harley Quinn). <br> <br> <br> <br> However, Joker: Folie À Deux has been given a D rating on CinemaScore — <br> <br> the lowest score for a comic book movie. <br> <br> <br> <br> Madame Web — which notably also flopped in theaters earlier this year and also received terrible reviews — holds a higher score with a C+.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Rotten Tomatoes, the movie currently holds an audience score of <br> <br> 31% and a critic score of 32%. <br> <br> <br> <br> The sequel is projected to rake in less that $50 million at <br> <br> the domestic box office during the entirety of opening weekend, per The Hollywood Reporter. <br> <br> <br> <br> Weeks ago, the movie had been projected to bring in around $70 <br> <br> million - but the number has since drastically dropped. <br> <br> <br> <br> Joker (2019) notably opened with $96.2 million when the film first released in theaters - and eventually <br> <br> landed a little over $1 billion in the global box office. <br> <br> <br> <br> The first movie - which was also directed by Todd Phillips <br> <br> - had a budget of between $55 and $70 million. However, the budget <br> <br> increased for Folie À Deux to around $200 million. <br> <br> <br> <br> The 2019 movie garnered praise and positive reviews from both critics and audiences - and won the Golden Lion during the 76th Venice International Film Festival. <br> <br> <br> <br> Joaquin received an Oscar for Best Actor for his portrayal of the Joker (Arthur Fleck) - and the film <br> <br> garnered an additional Academy Award for Best Original Score. <br> <br> <br> <br> The sequel also screened during the Venice International Film Festival last month in September, where it <br> <br> earned a 12-minute standing ovation, per Deadline.   <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> A source directly involved with the film said: 'No one could get through to <br> <br> Todd. And the one thing about genre stuff: If <br> <br> you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> However, audiences have since taken to X after the <br> <br> movie released in theaters on Friday - and shared their <br> <br> opinions on the sequel, which features musical sequences. <br> <br> <br> <br> One fan penned, 'Joaquin Phoenix don't deserve this.<br> <br> what happened to the script?' while another added, 'is <br> <br> it that bad,' followed by a crying face emoji. <br> <br> <br> <br> 'Ironically I feel that a musical, if done well, could have been a good choice.<br> <br> It'd show how much of an unreliable narrator Fleck is,' one typed. <br> <br> <br> <br> 'But with some original songs, that keep everything vague, not just covers.<br> <br> Also when I heard of the ending I snorted fr.' <br> <br> <br> <br> A social media user wrote, 'Stop making sequels as musicals if the original wasn't a musical.' <br> <br> <br> <br> 'Maybe he [Phillips] only had an hour long movie, and <br> <br> decided to randomly add musical scenes to fill the runtime,' one <br> <br> penned. <br> <br> <br> <br> 'Joker downfall really needs to be studied,' another shared, <br> <br> along with a monkey staring out a window. <br> <br> <br> <br> One fan said, 'the movie sucks. i had to walk out of the cinema,' while <br> <br> another penned, 'After years of disagreement....*Joker 2 releases* <br> <br> Critics [shaking hands] Audience.' <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> However, audiences have since taken to X after the movie released in theaters on Friday - and shared their opinions over the sequel, which was also a musical<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> 'Ironically I feel that a musical, if done well, could have been a good choice.<br> <br> It'd show how much of an unreliable narrator Fleck is,' one typed<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> 'Joker downfall really needs to be studied,' another shared, <br> <br> along with a monkey staring out a window<br> <br> <br> <br> 'That's way below what we expected,' one wrote in regards to the current Rotten Tomatoes scores.<br> <br> 'People are saying this is the worst sequel ever.' <br> <br> <br> <br> A fan explained, 'yea this film was bad. it was pretentious and dull.<br> <br> has the aesthetic of an arthouse film without the <br> <br> substance.' <br> <br> <br> <br> 'It also insults the audience's intelligence. the songs were also underwhelming too.<br> <br> they shouldn't have let this escape to theaters.' <br> <br> <br> <br> One shared, 'The audience that loved the first movie is not the same audience running to <br> <br> see musicals. This was a gigantic mistake from step 1.' <br> <br> <br> <br> During an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Phillips discussed whether he would be interested in making a third <br> <br> Joker film or a movie centered around Gaga's character. <br> <br> <br> <br> 'It's not really where this movie is headed <br> <br> for me. I feel like my time in the DC Universe was these two films.' <br> <br> <br> <br> Ahead of the movie's release, Lady Gaga also dropped an accompanying album titled Harlequin on September 27. <br> <br> <br> <br> Joker: Folie À Deux has been branded the 'most <br> <br> disappointing follow-up to the Oscar-winning movie' by critics, as they cast doubt <br> <br> on Lady Gaga's 'thin' role in the film following its release on Friday. <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> 'That's way below what we expected,' one wrote in regards to the current Rotten Tomatoes scores.<br> <br> 'People are saying this is the worst sequel ever'<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> A fan explained, 'yea this film was bad. it was pretentious and dull.<br> <br> has the aesthetic of an arthouse film without the substance'<br> <br> <br> <br> The 'bleak' sequel, has also received a tepid reception from fans,<br> <br> with some claiming Lady Gaga's career could be at risk.<br> <br> <br> <br> While the same director Todd Phillips was back in the hot seat, critics have said the <br> <br> sequel is just a 'repeat' of the first hit but with an added musical twist.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Most critics have said Todd failed to use Gaga correctly in the movie and <br> <br> claimed she was only bought in for the musical aspect of it.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> While the majority of critics say Joker: Folie À Deux didn't live up to expectations,<br> <br> others have dubbed the movie 'bold' and 'brilliant.' <br> <br> <br> <br> Daily Mail's Brian Viner commended the move as <br> <br> 'bold' and 'brilliant' but said it lacked any thrill. <br> <br> <br> <br> The Independent's Geoffrey Macnab said: 'Today Joker is best remembered as one of the most subversive and original films of the last decade, <br> <br> while its hugely anticipated sequel is just as bleak and formally <br> <br> daring as its predecessor'.<br> <br> <br> <br> Meanwhile, the Irish Times' Donald Clarke gave the movie just two <br> <br> stars but credited Phillips' work for making a sequel following the first movie's $1billion success.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Financial Times critic Danny Leigh said although Gaga worked hard to bump <br> <br> the ratings up in the sequel, Phillips appeared to <br> <br> have no idea what to do with her. <br> <br> <br> <br> Giving a three star rating, The Guardian's Peter Bradshaw claimed the movie proves <br> <br> 'claustrophobic' and 'repetitive.'<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Joker: Folie À Deux has been branded the 'most disappointing follow-up to the Oscar-winning movie' by critics, as they cast doubt on Lady Gaga's <br> <br> 'thin' role in the film following its release on Friday; <br> <br> seen in September in London <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> The Times' Kevin Maher wrote: 'The director Todd <br> <br> Phillips said there would be no follow-up to <br> <br> the original, but he changed his mind and the result is <br> <br> a derivative musical'<br> <br> <br> <br> 'This might be the most disappointing follow-up to an Oscar-winning performance since Anthony Hopkins reworked his silky and <br> <br> terrifying Dr Lecter from for the campy, kitschy.' <br> <br> <br> <br> Along with Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix, other stars that had appeared in the sequel include Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beatz <br> <br> and Steve Coogan. <br> <br> <br> <br> Joker: Folie à Deux has faced additional backlash from fans as they have claimed that Gaga is running the risk of losing her <br> <br> acting career. <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Lady GagaJoaquin Phoenix<br> <br> <br> <br> my webpage - ค่าจัดดอกไม้งานศพ <br> <br> ( Colby - http://Lebbook.kz/user/JanellCorner/ )
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